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PostSubject: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 12th 2010, 2:24 pm

my buddy jus bought a 06 evo 9 and he is havin over boosting problems there is a manual boost control on it set to wide open then there is a nother that is set to something else doesnt kno wht to tho. and he took it some where an had the codes checked an thats wht came up is overboosting

so my ???? is wht would cuase this or make this do that ?? lmk thanks


ithink thee is is more then jus that controler but thats jus me
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 12th 2010, 4:32 pm

what evo is it did he just buy that red one at denny menholt that was doing that
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 12th 2010, 6:46 pm

tps could be reading low volt causing the ecu to think it's over boosting. but it is hard to tell from the lack of info.
1. does the car still run normal at wot?
2. does it hicup when you start to excel.?
3. is there a wide-band on board?
4. anything done to the stock ecu?
5. if there is a boost controller set at 100% w/ stock fuel enrichment then theres your problem
tell us more info.!!!
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 12th 2010, 9:47 pm

yea that red evo from menholt he is in the process of buying it

an yea its falling flat on its face after 60% accel he isnt sure whats all done to it it has upgraded turbo bottom end so the say i honestly dont think that car is worth buying i knew of the kid that had it was drivin hard into the ground
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 13th 2010, 10:51 am

I would just say walk away from the deal... way to many unknowns! Do they have reciepts for all the parts on the car so you know what is installed? What is the car tuned with... is the car tuned?

I would assume the car is reading knock and puttin the car into limp (safe) mode... trying to save the engine. Seeing 2 boost controllers should be your first indicator that the person building the car originally was "not the smartest". I ran 21lbs of boost on my evo all day long and all it required was one boost controller!

Just a tip if he insist on buying it or is already to far into the process... Unistall one boost controller so you only have one variable, then "close" the other boost controller down. This should get you as low of boost as possiable. (hopefully he has a boost gauge). See if the car runs better with low boost.
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 13th 2010, 11:32 am

If this is my Buddy James, it's the evo 9 with the MIVEC 4G63 correct I was talking to him about that last night
If he doesn't know much about tunes or know anyone that can tune a turboed MIVEC then I'd walk away too
I ws looking everywhere and I was seeing everywhere that it's complicated to tune them
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 13th 2010, 3:33 pm

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If this is my Buddy James, it's the evo 9 with the MIVEC 4G63 correct I was talking to him about that last night
If he doesn't know much about tunes or know anyone that can tune a turboed MIVEC then I'd walk away too
I ws looking everywhere and I was seeing everywhere that it's complicated to tune them

Tuning the car shouldn't be your biggest concern... there is several good companies that offer mail reflash services that would make any car run just fine. I wouldn't want all the unknowns. A car that doesn't run right at a dealership just screams "I got tired of my screwed up project so I traded it off to a dealership"
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 13th 2010, 8:55 pm

well he hasnt bought it yet i told em wht u guys said an all now he is changin his mind i think he is gonna get it checked out one more time an see i guess i agrre jake cuase its probly a pile of shit another ones project gone bad

he is gonna take it to tim valie i guess which i think he should jus save his money an not buy it
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 13th 2010, 9:28 pm

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.-DoUbLe @-. wrote:
If this is my Buddy James, it's the evo 9 with the MIVEC 4G63 correct I was talking to him about that last night
If he doesn't know much about tunes or know anyone that can tune a turboed MIVEC then I'd walk away too
I ws looking everywhere and I was seeing everywhere that it's complicated to tune them

Tuning the car shouldn't be your biggest concern... there is several good companies that offer mail reflash services that would make any car run just fine. I wouldn't want all the unknowns. A car that doesn't run right at a dealership just screams "I got tired of my screwed up project so I traded it off to a dealership"

i agree with bone tuning is a peice of cake.
no offense taking it to tim valie is a waste of time!
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 13th 2010, 9:45 pm

i was tellin him that but its his chioce i guess im gonna convince him to not buy it an start fresh on a stock evo if that wht he is wantin to buy
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 14th 2010, 10:24 am

It could be something very simple, but knowing its running the way it is should be a warning that its probably been abused. That being said it wouldn't hurt to have someone look at it. It could be something simple like the wastegate line popped off or melted.

You sure it has two boost controllers and not a boost controller and the factory boost solenoid? If he is dead set on buying it I can take a look at it real quick and see what I think.

TPS can cause hesitation and bucking but won't throw an overboost code. That code means either the voltage from airflow is too high or the load is outside what the ECU is tuned for. If the Turbo is flowing too much air either from a boost control problem (wastegate line, faulty boost controller, boost control set too high, too large of a turbo on stock ECU, ETC) then that code will pop up, depending on the setup that should have helped avoid blowing the motor up by retarding the timing but that may only be the start of the issues. Too many variable to say on-line without really seeing it. Best advice would be as everyone else said start fresh and build it right from the start.

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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 14th 2010, 9:20 pm

he stopped by my work an vallie checked it out an the bost controller is bad so they turned it down an after driving it bout 20 mins it opens back up to 100% boost it did it twice today he told me an i think its not tuned right iether

but vallie said everything checks out other than the boost controller
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 15th 2010, 7:43 pm

ts4l wrote:
TPS can cause hesitation and bucking but won't throw an overboost code.
little bro's cummins had tps issues causing a mil to display overboost condition. replaced the tps fix the cel for overboost.
then again that was troy's problem more the likely not yours
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 17th 2010, 2:13 am

is the evo your talking about red with black wheels?
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 17th 2010, 4:30 am

and a black spoiler? I think I saw it yesterday...
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 17th 2010, 12:37 pm

jw cuz i dont think ive seen that car doing less than 60 in town since its been around, that kid needs to freakin slow down
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 18th 2010, 9:22 pm

i kn he frickin bought the turd an i kno i told him to slow it down that thing will get him in trouble but not my problems when it does
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 19th 2010, 8:04 am

In my opinion I would flash the stock map back on to the car, and then if that fails, check the vacuum lines. 9 times out of 10 it is the most obvious problem.

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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 19th 2010, 1:19 pm

i think my buddy told me he was gonna have the comptuer flashed an stuff by ams an stuff so well se how it turns out when its done i guess
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 19th 2010, 3:03 pm

He is going to wreck that car he drives WAY TOO FAST IN TOWN!!!! I WAS DOIN 45 and he just straight blew by me like i was holding still!!! Tell him to tone it down save it for the track cuz he makes us look bad screwin around grant it everyone screws off a lil but lets keep the dl so the 5-0 stay off us!!! But that red evo is quit bad ass looking and i love how it sounds!!!
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PostSubject: Re: to the mittzy guys or evo guys   December 19th 2010, 6:08 pm

i like it an all but he goes back to the rigs today so probly wont see it for awhile
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