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PostSubject: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 1st 2011, 12:16 pm

It was brought to my attention that we will need visible proof of club affiliation in order to get the $10 discount for SCCA, so I decided to make up some membership cards. I have not decided to do these in BLACk AND WHITE or COLOR yet, but this will be the design. You give me the mods done on your car, head shot, and a picture of your ride and I will do the rest. These will be printed on photo paper and laminated for a lifetime of awesomeness!!

I was thinking of doing these for $10. This is a one time fee that will allow you into SCCA every week for $25, saving you $10 every time you race. You will also receive a MAEC decal and PREMIUM MEMBER status under your name along with the SCCA discount.

In theory if you raced even once this year it would cost you $35 anyway, plus you get a decal and premium member status.

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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 1st 2011, 3:50 pm

You know I'll want one Mikey, I'll PM ya my shizz later Smile
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 1st 2011, 4:27 pm

Great idea... I love saving money... and looking at myself!
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My email address is doodiehd@hotmail.com.

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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 1st 2011, 6:29 pm

I like this idea and would like one as well. I was at the SCCA event today and I am not sure if an ID card is what they want as proof. It sounded to me like thay didn't consider MAEC a club at all. They refered to it as "a forum thing" and not a club, which I know is BS. Meatings are held as well as events. Sounds like a club to me, ID or not. Matt will be going to the SCCA meating on Tues.. I will probably go as well. I would like to find out for sure what they consider a "car club"
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I am not really sure what they believe a car club would consist of, but I am pretty sure MAEC is a club. The Montana DRIVE Association considers MAEC a club. ???

Maybe while you guys are at the meeting you should ask them how we could gain the CLUB STATUS. I might actually put the word CLUB on the ID cards just to make it that much easier.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 1st 2011, 7:54 pm

Knowing them they'll probably make the forum pay like a $100 "club" fee or some gay crap
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 1st 2011, 8:31 pm

Even with a "club fee" of $100 we could still all chip in for that, $10 or $15 each and still save money. I'd like to wait to see what the SCCA folk say though... before I shoot you money and stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 1st 2011, 8:57 pm

Well, the C in MAEC doesn't stand Crotchmonster. And since it'll probably increase SCCA race attendance by quite a bit, they shouldn't be so resistive towards it.

Hey Mikey, what should one do if they havw multiple cars, or change cars more often than they change their underwear? Should we just have IDs with only the member info?
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 1st 2011, 9:00 pm

I recognize MAEClub as a Club. So imagine my surprize when they told me it don't count because we don't pay dues.. We will see what they say.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 1st 2011, 10:47 pm

DoodieHead wrote:
Maybe while you guys are at the meeting you should ask them how we could gain the CLUB STATUS.

The good old SCCA..... will they ever learn? They just simply don't promote attendance at their own event and throw little temper tantrums about things that don't have their blessing. I'll see if we can get a "knighted club approval" from the SCCA. But given how hard headed they are about everything we'll see how it goes.

If this doesn't work out..... I am seriously going to be pushing you guys to become NASA affiliated. At that point it doesn't matter what the SCCA thinks, says, or does. We can run our own auto-x, have insurance for Lewistown, and many other benefits that the SCCA could never provide anyways. I hope we don't have to go to those extremes before the SCCA comes around and becomes a good car club themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 2nd 2011, 1:43 am

Damn, Matt, that's a great idea. Why didn't we think of this before? Especially if they cover insurance for events. How would we go about doing that?
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 2nd 2011, 9:41 am

More reminders why I don't go to many SCCA events anymore......
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 2nd 2011, 1:22 pm

Cyfun wrote:
Damn, Matt, that's a great idea. Why didn't we think of this before? Especially if they cover insurance for events. How would we go about doing that?

It would take about 5 people (preferably more)willing to commit the time to become NASA instructor certified and they would become the NASA "officers" for this venture. Then our club could be NASA affiliated and we could do all kinds of events including auto-x, drifting, rally-x, and insurance to cover Lewistown. Thing is people from MAEC would have to be active NASA registered members to enjoy these benefiets. But it would be like haveing our own SCCA that we could do what we want with within the rules and regs of NASA. The hard part is finding people commited enough to be RELIABLE officers for such an effort..... and that would turn Montana into its own Montana NASA region. And if we make it an affiliation with MAEC.... then it should work out great...... SHOULD.
James Rowen from Great Falls is alreay instructor certified through NASA and I have been in contact with him along with the regional dirrector with NASA talking about our options. We pretty much have a green light to try to start up our own region.... we just need people to commit to it to make it work. NASA would like to see about 100 members in the state of Montana for this region to be "self sustaining".

I would love to see this happen.... but I honestly doubt we have enough real car guys in this state that will commit to see it ever happen..... why? Cause it has nothing to do with drag racing or dirt circle track.

So that is why I think if we don't like the SCCA... then we need to either join SCCA and help change it...... or if the SCCA is really that bull headed.... Make our own NASA region.

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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 2nd 2011, 2:37 pm

I think NASA is the better way to go, and I think we could probably get enough good people from MAEC. I know I'm down for it. I've dreamed of having a decent circuit track here, or at least a decent-sized autocross track, for a long time, and would be more than happy to dedicate much of my time to such a cause.

I'm guess you, Matt, would be down. And probably Todd, and Mr. Card. How about you, Mr. Montoya?

The next question is: how much will this all cost us?
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 2nd 2011, 3:54 pm

Sweet, thanks for the links. I'd read a bit, but hadn't found the prices. $45 a year ain't bad.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 2nd 2011, 4:44 pm

How would NASA be any different then SCCA? I don't see the logic at all? No one attends SCCA events so why would we try to recreat the wheel? The core problem with car events in Billings is the lack of good spots. Start whatever orginization you want and it will suffer just like SCCA does because we don't have the events to keep people interested.

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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 2nd 2011, 11:55 pm

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How would NASA be any different then SCCA? I don't see the logic at all? No one attends SCCA events so why would we try to recreat the wheel? The core problem with car events in Billings is the lack of good spots. Start whatever orginization you want and it will suffer just like SCCA does because we don't have the events to keep people interested.

The grass is not always greener on the other side.


I totally agree with this.

However.... the big thing it would do for MAEC..... is give us the insurance we need for Lewistown events (without relying on Vern to borrow his). SCCA will not do this because this SCCA region is Solo I status only and due to SCCA rules it would be impossible to make Lewistown a SCCA sanctioned event. Lewistown is eligible for NASA sanctioning however IF we become NASA affiliated and abide by their rules for running the track.

Other things it would do is from that point as a side bonus if we want to...... have our own auto-x events (which would be direct competition with SCCA and they would be forced to improve or die... or we could choose to not do auto-x) But NASA classes car quite a bit different which is better in my opinion. check out the classifications.

Allow us to host drifting events.... covered by NASA insurance and rules.

And if we want..... rally-x too!

The main reason I'm looking at it for a possibility is for insurance coverage for Lewistown because SCCA will never sanction a Lewistown event with the way their rules are set up. I see everything else as a side benefit at this point that we don't have to use. And this would not be a Billings region. this would be a possible multi-state region. As I understand.... north, and south Dakota, Wyoming, along with Montana are without NASA. Why? because it is not a auto-x based club. it is founded upon road racing. The closest track to go to right now is Denver. The regional director of NASA seams to think that since the PCA runs on Lewistown right now and he's seen video of the track that he can sign it off as a (TT) track.


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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 3rd 2011, 12:03 am

I would fucking love to do some rally-x. Easier on the tires, and we'd probably have more venues to choose from. Plus, my GL wagon might have a fighting chance! Very Happy

Setting up a drift event would be frikkin sweet, especially cause it would draw lots of spectators. Spectators could get us sponsors, and both would help fund better venues.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 3rd 2011, 10:22 am

Matt - I see your point, if it resolves Lewistown issues then it's an easier decision. Then as you mentioned the rest is just gravy. In order to grow the motorsports here we need to embrace what we have.... open space and lots of dirt roads. I think rally-x has the best chance of success for any motorsport event. All it would take would be one cool farmer who would allow access and the right NASA/SCCA insurance and it would be insane. Rally-x could also extend the season and have snow rally's, another big benefit.

As for drifting, I think the only venue that could be safe and fun would be the drag strip.

I might just have to keep my eye out for the AWD turbo Justy so I can build my rally machine!
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As for drifting, I think the only venue that could be safe and fun would be the drag strip.

or Lewistown? LOL


And yes.... rally-x would help keep things going altough I don't have too much interest in this personally..... but that is why we would hope to get all kinds of interest through MAEC for this venture to keep it alive.... another thing SCCA does not have going for it since they are limited to auto-x only.
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I think the amount of people interested in drift events is fairly small in MT, the amount of people that could slide around cones is smaller, the amount of people that could slide around high speed corners in Lewistonw is really small!

But... it sure would be fun to try and learn!
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I think the amount of people interested in drift events is fairly small in MT, the amount of people that could slide around cones is smaller, the amount of people that could slide around high speed corners in Lewistonw is really small!

But... it sure would be fun to try and learn!

Ain't that the truth.

But I too believe that the rally-x could be the glue in between Lewistown events that could hold this together.

We wouldn't have to do auto-x.... as the SCCA already does it..... but we could. lol

But once again.... it's finding people to be reliable leaders for this.... as all the ones I can think of have better things to do with their life then spend it on cars....... right Jake? lol



I'll let you guys know how things go at the SCCA meeting as far as if we can get Knighted by the SCCA to be a real car club. lol
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I admitted that right now cars aren't a big priority and my family is... so currently I own zero cars. It makes it a pretty easy decision for me now!

If I could help support a race event that excited me I would, and that would also give me the motivation to buy a car and get back into things.

I wonder if state/blm land could be used for races. The "new" Pompey's pillar wildlife refuge thingy has an awesome little dirt road that goes from parking lot to parking lot and is a couple miles long winding through some hills. I could see a great rally cross happening out there. No cliff edges, just dirt and sagebrush with no houses anywhere.

We don't have to be sanctioned if we go at night with only a select group of people! Wink Wink!
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 4th 2011, 1:41 am

Went to SCCA meeting.

The VIP member cards will suffice for car club discount. So order them up and go auto-x!
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 7th 2011, 10:18 am

Some more detail on VIP cards and SCCA. All are welcome who want to attend. The fees are as follows:

SCCA members: $20
Non members: $35
Other club members: $25

They will consider MAEC members with ID only for the discount. The SCCA has proposed this as a trial for this year. We also learned more about the cost to the SCCA for holding each event. The main SCCA charges each region $18 per car for each event held with a minimum of 20 cars. In addition, the Billings club pays for parking lot rental wich varies from a couple hundred to just under $1000 per event and port a potty at $100 per event. With those cost they are just breaking even. And that is their goal as stated in the meating, to just break even at the end of the year.

I would like to be able to have a number of MAEC members show up for their next event at Skyview HS, the day after lewistown. With a solid showing, the SCCA may continue this deal. See you all around.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 7th 2011, 5:00 pm

That's a good point. We should get a bunch of MAEC out there so that they can see how big of a benefit we are. Shit, I'll race my sooby. It may be lifted, but it is rocking 215mm wide tires now. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 7th 2011, 5:21 pm

The SCCA needs your support. And if you guys can't support SCCA then you aren't going to be able to support NASA.

So make an appearance, or better yet..... go race!
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 8th 2011, 2:46 pm

So Mike,
What exactly do we need to e-mail you to make these member cards?

I don't think that vehicle mods would be necessary on a member card.... mostly.... because you would have to issue a new card to me on a quarterly basis. lol. Plus what about the guys that have multiple cars?

Anyways.... I guess I just need a personal photo for you to make mine?

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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 8th 2011, 2:53 pm

You dont have to send a list of mods if you dont want to, but a photo of yourself I will need.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 21st 2011, 7:53 am

Nels is the only one that I have received an email from. Just wanted to post this as some of my mail goes to junk and I dont always check it.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 21st 2011, 9:19 am

Here is yours Nels. I need your car year and info.

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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 21st 2011, 5:30 pm

That's a good lookin' dude.

85 Toyota Corolla.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 22nd 2011, 9:46 am

I will make the alterations and get this done for you Nels.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2011, 1:38 pm

I'm waiting to get a good new picture of the Venge up in Lewistown this weekend to use and then I'll send ya all my stuff Mikey! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeSeptember 18th 2011, 4:06 pm

I'm interested in a decal... do we have a pic of what it looks like? Also just as an FYI I'm a Graphic Designer and have owned a couple of forums in the past myself I'm more than happy to help with decal designs, logo's, and any site graphics that are needed as this looks to be my new home. I'll be in Helena by next Monday or Tuesday, leaving Fort Worth Texas on Saturday or Sunday.
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeSeptember 19th 2011, 10:38 am

There is a seperate thread on the MAEC decals located here: http://www.maecforum.com/t454-maec-stickers-are-here?highlight=maec

This thread is for a members card so we are accepted as a "club" at SCCA events Smile
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PostSubject: Re: MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards   MAEC 'VIP' Member Cards Icon_minitimeSeptember 19th 2011, 12:47 pm

Probably should have looked here first... just posted in your new thread, thanks for the link! I used to auto cross in my accord (not the best platform but i was the only person in my class instant win!) here in texas...

Didn't realize it was for scca until I opened the thread, the title makes it look like membership cards for the forum or something.
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