Formula One Race Car vs. Ford GT in Drag Race... OOOOPS!!! LOL!!

You notice that for a car that was never intended for drag racing...... it left the GT-40 in the dust off the line though. lol

Dr.Auto wrote:

You notice that for a car that was never intended for drag racing...... it left the GT-40 in the dust off the line though. lol

lol and the gt40 is intended for drag racing?!? Formula 1 cars are designed for acceleration, have more than 700 hp, 200 more than the gt, weigh half as much as the gt, and can go 0-60 in 1.7 seconds, about 2 seconds faster than the gt. Unless there is a shit load of work done to the gt, the race is pretty pointless. lol and expensive!

plus the f1 driver gave it just 2 much gas

Owww, that's a gigantic pile of fuck. Wonder what happened. Maybe his tires weren't warm enough, or he wasn't used to the lack of down-force. Either way, that's an expensive repair bill.

Snakebite420 wrote:

plus the f1 driver gave it just 2 much gas

Exactly..... which is my point..... he can't hook up! BECAUSE the car is not desighned for drag racing. To get good hook up you need weight transfere..... that mean suspension that will move and transfere weight to the drive wheels. the formula1 car is made for track racing and taking turns real fast. It was never made to launch..... how many times in a F1's life does it have to accelerate from a speed slower than 60mph? Like never..... It can't even use it's aero to help it launch..... because the car when being used never spends its life at anything slower than 60 mph!

So in this aspect..... yes.... the GT40 has a huge advantage. in this race it would be considered the drag car.

And oddly enough, Ford GT would probably be cheaper to repair in such a collision.

Dr.Auto wrote:

Snakebite420 wrote:

plus the f1 driver gave it just 2 much gas

Exactly..... which is my point..... he can't hook up! BECAUSE the car is not desighned for drag racing. To get good hook up you need weight transfere..... that mean suspension that will move and transfere weight to the drive wheels. the formula1 car is made for track racing and taking turns real fast. It was never made to launch..... how many times in a F1's life does it have to accelerate from a speed slower than 60mph? Like never..... It can't even use it's aero to help it launch..... because the car when being used never spends its life at anything slower than 60 mph!

So in this aspect..... yes.... the GT40 has a huge advantage. in this race it would be considered the drag car.

huh, so you are saying that a gt that gets to 60 in 3.7 seconds has a huge advantage in a drag race vs a formula 1 race car that gets to 60 in 1.7 seconds? Interesting point of view. I would say that the driver of the gt has an advantage in that the gt is probably easier to keep under control in a drag race. The ever so slight advantage the gt40 may have at launch due to its cushy street suspension is quickly negated by the fact it is likely on street tires. Even if the gt driver is able to muster a 1.7 60 ft, the f1 driver is already doing 60, which the gt wont reach for 2 more seconds!

smd wrote:

huh, so you are saying that a gt that gets to 60 in 3.7 seconds has a huge advantage in a drag race vs a formula 1 race car that gets to 60 in 1.7 seconds? Interesting point of view. I would say that the driver of the gt has an advantage in that the gt is probably easier to keep under control in a drag race. The ever so slight advantage the gt40 may have at launch due to its cushy street suspension is quickly negated by the fact it is likely on street tires. Even if the gt driver is able to muster a 1.7 60 ft, the f1 driver is already doing 60, which the gt wont reach for 2 more seconds!

I know what your saying..... the F1 is way freaking fast and so the GT40 has no chance. I agree. unfair race.


But my point is.... The F1 being fast from a dead stop is very impressive considering the fact that the engineers didn't sit down and say...... hmmm, so what are we going to do with this suspension to make this thing launch like a monster! They didn't even consider the fact that the car would be launched....ever.... because that is not the focus of F1. Everything it does above 60mph is the focus. So from that aspect..... just the fact that it launches well when it's not specifically designed to do so is very impressive..... whereas more engineering thought went into the GT40 in the aspect of launching the car in comparison.
Besides.... I'm pretty sure that is the same GT40 that was on "Battle of the Supercars"..... and it would not be stock. lol But maybe not.


(And the difference of "launching" a car on street tires vs. ROAD RACING slicks.... is very similar.... Just because they are SLICKS does not mean they are Mickey Thompson wrinkle wall drag racing slicks. Launching a car on road racing slicks sucks..... probably even worse than street tires.... especially if they are cold.)

Dr.Auto wrote:

smd wrote:

huh, so you are saying that a gt that gets to 60 in 3.7 seconds has a huge advantage in a drag race vs a formula 1 race car that gets to 60 in 1.7 seconds? Interesting point of view. I would say that the driver of the gt has an advantage in that the gt is probably easier to keep under control in a drag race. The ever so slight advantage the gt40 may have at launch due to its cushy street suspension is quickly negated by the fact it is likely on street tires. Even if the gt driver is able to muster a 1.7 60 ft, the f1 driver is already doing 60, which the gt wont reach for 2 more seconds!

I know what your saying..... the F1 is way freaking fast and so the GT40 has no chance. I agree. unfair race.


But my point is.... The F1 being fast from a dead stop is very impressive considering the fact that the engineers didn't sit down and say...... hmmm, so what are we going to do with this suspension to make this thing launch like a monster! They didn't even consider the fact that the car would be launched....ever.... because that is not the focus of F1. Everything it does above 60mph is the focus. So from that aspect..... just the fact that it launches well when it's not specifically designed to do so is very impressive..... whereas more engineering thought went into the GT40 in the aspect of launching the car in comparison.
Besides.... I'm pretty sure that is the same GT40 that was on "Battle of the Supercars"..... and it would not be stock. lol But maybe not.


(And the difference of "launching" a car on street tires vs. ROAD RACING slicks.... is very similar.... Just because they are SLICKS does not mean they are Mickey Thompson wrinkle wall drag racing slicks. Launching a car on road racing slicks sucks..... probably even worse than street tires.... especially if they are cold.)

I would bet, more thought by the f1 engineers goes into accelerating from a stop than you think, after all, when the flag drops in an F1 race, What is the first thing the cars do? Thats right, accelerate from a stop. I agree that the launch is not the focus of F1, I have not doubt a considerable amount of time and thought is put into geting the car to launch without sacrificing the cars handling in any other aspect.

The car in this vid has racing stripes and the one in the battle of the supercars doesn't. Also different wheels. Could still be the same car tho.

that was a "smashing" success!

smd wrote:

I would bet, more thought by the f1 engineers goes into accelerating from a stop than you think, after all, when the flag drops in an F1 race, What is the first thing the cars do? Thats right, accelerate from a stop. I agree that the launch is not the focus of F1, I have not doubt a considerable amount of time and thought is put into geting the car to launch without sacrificing the cars handling in any other aspect.

ya..... it's called electronic launch control.... that's worked so well that its been a legality issue in F1 for the last couple years.


And suspension dynamics does not allow the best of both worlds. There will be the game of compromise to obtain anything somewhere else. A F1 car launches once a race.... IF its a standing start. Pit stops don't count. It corners all the time and uses it's brakes all the time.... in comparison launching the car is irrelevant. Anything you do to a car to make it launch better suspension design or geometry wise adversely effects its ability to corner. That is simple suspension physics. There are hundreds of books written on the topic.

P.S. when was the last time you checked the roll center on your Mustang?

Dr.Auto wrote:

smd wrote:

I would bet, more thought by the f1 engineers goes into accelerating from a stop than you think, after all, when the flag drops in an F1 race, What is the first thing the cars do? Thats right, accelerate from a stop. I agree that the launch is not the focus of F1, I have not doubt a considerable amount of time and thought is put into geting the car to launch without sacrificing the cars handling in any other aspect.

ya..... it's called electronic launch control.... that's worked so well that its been a legality issue in F1 for the last couple years.


And suspension dynamics does not allow the best of both worlds. There will be the game of compromise to obtain anything somewhere else. A F1 car launches once a race.... IF its a standing start. Pit stops don't count. It corners all the time and uses it's brakes all the time.... in comparison launching the car is irrelevant. Anything you do to a car to make it launch better suspension design or geometry wise adversely effects its ability to corner. That is simple suspension physics. There are hundreds of books written on the topic.

P.S. when was the last time you checked the roll center on your Mustang?

So if they weren't concerned at all with the launch why did they have used launch control??????????????????????? You're right, The start is not at all important.

Get real, They are concerned with EVERY aspect of the race, from START to finish.

lol, why would I be concerned with the roll center in my mustang? Its not a race car, and I don't claim it is! Its suspension is nice n soft. Its comfortable to drive and ride in. lol, you want to make fun of my car, have at it! I have a tahoe too, you could make fun of that! It is a race car though! It has racing bucket seats in the back, oh wait, those are my kids car seats, never mind.