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PostSubject: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 5th 2011, 9:50 pm

December 8 1:30 pm billings hotel. Yds will be auctioned

this news was given tonite at the end of the season banquet, Molly omo is auctioning the track off . all vendors have removed there stuff, her intent is to get a buyer by not running the track next season , so as to force the issue with the sale, she reserves the right to deny the auction price ,which means the track will remained closed for next season

hopefully somone buys it witht the intent to open it, this is about as bad as it gets for drag racers, anything can happen

i for one am sayin a little prayer and crossing my fingers for a good outcome


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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 5th 2011, 11:50 pm

Well, It's a good thing that the route I decided to take with the Talon was to drag it, since I didn't want to spend thousands on the necessary suspension upgrades and custom parts to make it useful for anything other than a straight line...

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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 6th 2011, 1:52 am

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Well, It's a good thing that the route I decided to take with the Talon was to drag it, since I didn't want to spend thousands on the necessary suspension upgrades and custom parts to make it useful for anything other than a straight line...



Um what exactly u trying to say? Is this sarcasm?
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 6th 2011, 7:20 am

Looks like my piggy bank may be getting smashed.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 6th 2011, 9:41 am

I'm guessing YDS hasn't ever really been much of a cash cow and in today's economy it's going to be an even tougher sell. If anyone buys it you would think they would open and operate it otherwise what would be the point? Bring in a wrecking ball and plant crops afterwards?

So the auction is this coming Dec. 8th?
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 6th 2011, 10:27 am

ghost wrote:
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Well, It's a good thing that the route I decided to take with the Talon was to drag it, since I didn't want to spend thousands on the necessary suspension upgrades and custom parts to make it useful for anything other than a straight line...



Um what exactly u trying to say? Is this sarcasm?

Yeah. It's just annoying to know that there is a very high chance most of the work I do this winter will be fruitless endeavors
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 6th 2011, 12:03 pm

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RedMitsu wrote:
Well, It's a good thing that the route I decided to take with the Talon was to drag it, since I didn't want to spend thousands on the necessary suspension upgrades and custom parts to make it useful for anything other than a straight line...



Um what exactly u trying to say? Is this sarcasm?

Yeah. It's just annoying to know that there is a very high chance most of the work I do this winter will be fruitless endeavors

Yeah I feel the same way.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 6th 2011, 12:13 pm

whats the point of an auction if you are just gonna renig on the sale price? shouldnt she just call it a sale??
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 6th 2011, 12:50 pm

Probably testing the waters to see what she can get for it I'm guessing. It was up for sale for a million there for a while IIRC.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 6th 2011, 1:26 pm

got me guys , she definitly doesnt have alot of business savvy. having a n auction with no reserve but the right to refuse , makes very little sense, and definitly makes a lot of potential bidders not show up
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 6th 2011, 6:26 pm

Same shit every year, she wants way too much for the facility and she will not take anything less. Once no one puts up the money to buy it she will lease it again.

All signs point to 'NO' for a drag season next year. Glad my car is fun on road courses. Feel bad for those of you that have drag only vehicles.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 7th 2011, 9:31 am

Maybe if the drag community spent a couple years in hiding, as kindof a quiet "boycott", the value would plummit and she would be forced to lower the price.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 7th 2011, 12:58 pm

Well fuck, guess I'll be holding off on some drag radials for now! You'd think with the lack of interest she's had, she'd realize the price needs to come down.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 7th 2011, 2:45 pm

The owner probably needs to get a certain price just to get out of the place. I would imagine the facility needs some work after the flooding earlier this year (the underground septic tank was floating above ground just before the earlier SCCA event).

I agree with f20bmt- a boycott may be the answer. But how do you boycott a place that isn't even going to open? It is a long drive to Lewistown to reach a drag strip. Does anyone know of a place closer?

Sorry to hear this for those of you who are building drag cars. If it isn't too late, convert your build to SCCA specifications and help to improve and strengthen the Yellowstone SCCA. It looks like it will be the only local competitive option left in the spring, unless you are willing to travel.

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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 7th 2011, 2:57 pm

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Maybe if the drag community spent a couple years in hiding, as kindof a quiet "boycott", the value would plummit and she would be forced to lower the price.

Problem with that is that an unused facility deteriorates very fast (ever seen an abandoned road and how fast vegitation starts taking it back?). If it sits unused and unmaintained for any real length of time, you might as well turn it back into farm land.

I'm hopeful that something positive will happen with the track but I'm usually overly optimistic. There is certainly a fair amount of $$ that races out there, biggest problem is that it isn't a good business opportunity (at least I'd bet it isn't). Thus not too many of the big business types (with the necessary money) in the area would likely jump on owning the track, would almost have to be someone that has a realtively large amount of wealth and really enjoys the hobby. IIRC, that is how it got started in the first place.

We'll see what happens at the auction, that should at least give us a good indicator of what to expect next year. Until then, I guess we wait.

None of my toys are track only anyway, and the VBOX PerformanceBox that I got a couple years back is just itching for some use. I'll find some kind of fun either way. Mini could autox but I'm not sure that I'd like that enough (in the Mini), maybe one of those carts like I saw running this year, that would be a fun toy Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 7th 2011, 4:29 pm

Is there a lien on the property or is it paid for? If it's paid for the only thing she has to pay on is taxes at that point. If it's paid for and she's being stubborn about letting it go then that's dumb.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 7th 2011, 9:18 pm

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Is there a lien on the property or is it paid for? If it's paid for the only thing she has to pay on is taxes at that point. If it's paid for and she's being stubborn about letting it go then that's dumb.

Think it has been paid for for years, unless she took out a lien against it, but that would be surprising. Doubt she is hurting for money.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 8th 2011, 9:53 am

I wonder how much it would cost to have a car shipped from Spokane to Billings or to rent a truck/trailer from UHaul and drive it back to Billings one way. I'm gonna guess at least $600 minimum to ship it and possibly more than that for the UHaul. Just thinking out loud about what a person would have to do if they drove their car out there to race and blew it up.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 8th 2011, 11:12 am

Sounds like the typicall Montana Buisness plan.... let someone rich build something cool, then it will fail because they put too much money into it and the community can't/won't support the idea. So then after things get real ugly some guy comes along, buys it out of bankruptcy for a fraction of the original cost and then MAYBE the buisness idea will work.

Go look at Big Splash Waterpark... it just a few years ahead on the cycle. Sitting, rotting waiting for someone to buy it for pennies on the dollar.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 8th 2011, 1:11 pm

Sam and some of the others probably know more about this than I do but my impression was that the track was built to be a place for the owner and his family to race - as well as to benefit the community and encourage involvement in the hobby. It was never built with the intention of being a big money maker.

Now that the original benefactors are not in the picture what you have is not an attractive investment option. Never really was. So you need a special person/persons to take ownership of the place at this point. They need to have the money to run the facility but also with the idea in mind that it may not ever make them much money. This is a tough trick to pull off and especially in the current economic climate.

The current owner wanting more money than she'll likely get is a roadblock. She'll either find a buyer for what she wants, not find a buyer and lease it again, or not find a buyer and let the place fall apart until she finally (if ever) decides to give the thing away for "pennies on the dollar".

Since it's paid for I don't know why she is being so stubborn about this.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 8th 2011, 2:19 pm

Not to sound homo, but it really kind of breaks my heart. I've been to a track in a much, much bigger, and more popular city than here, and in comparison their track was a POS. We have a very, very nice new facility right in our back yard, and to see it go to waste is a crying shame. Life has gotten in the way for me the past few years, but I was really looking forward to putting in a whole season out there this year...

I know quite a few guys from northern Wyoming that drive up every damn weekend during race season to run their junk.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 8th 2011, 7:20 pm

Here's to hoping someone buys it and keeps it open, or it gets leased again next year.

If not, Looks like we'll be traveling to race. Shitty, yes, but not the end of the world. Someone will buy it eventually and hopefully make something decent out of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 8th 2011, 10:06 pm

Shit, it's an auction, I wonder if they have a reserve price. Imma go and bid $20.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 9th 2011, 11:30 pm

A race track can make money but it takes years for it to do so and it takes a lot of work. Boise's track helps support three familys. Three brothers run that track and do a hell of a job. Two hours after the races they are still working on the track and picking up. And then in the morning it'll still be dark and they will be prepn the track. They always personally thank you for coming and supporting their track. Yes, Boise is bigger but the three big races they have thats their money makers, 3/4 of the racers are from out of town like Canada, WA, OR, CA, anywhere semi close. Its just something that takes time and someone that knows how to run it and what to expect. And that track aint near as smooth as Billings but they will get 20 pro mods to come and try out for a 8 car field and also they get like 25 nitro nostalgia cars there. its insane. Just cause Billings track is in the middle of no where doesnt mean it cant have good turn outs. it'll happen with the right owner, its just finding one
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 10th 2011, 12:12 am

What he said!

And Jake I didn't even realize that was you until I was done readin the name.

Get your pops to throw down on YDS, then you can run it! LOL. Might have to take out a loan against the civic and Teg though...
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 27th 2011, 1:55 pm

i see there are a few interested buyers in our track/runway.1 guy sidney mt,1 from boise id,1 from mt,1 from billings and rocky mountain collage wants it real bad for there avation class.sounds like it would work great for small planes.aircraft storage will allso be avaliable to small planes to help pay for the land.i guess we will see dec 8
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 27th 2011, 4:58 pm

Is the college interested in keeping the drag racing or would it just be an airstrip?
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Making it a dual purpose runyway/racetrack would be a great idea. The school mostly only needs it during weekdays in the mornings and afternoons, so that would leave plenty of time for racing. Hell, they could make it more of a circuit training track like in Lewistown and teach driving classes, too.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 28th 2011, 3:22 am

There is no way rocky will let anyone race.liability alone is not sumthing any college is goin to take on.not to mention the competition with the flight program. If they get it. It will be just an air strip Guy's.
the only hope is if one of these intrested parties wants to run a race track.I'm keeping my fingers crossed. But not holding my breath. We will know on Dec 8th one way or another
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But won't they have to heavily insure it anyway as they've not only got planes out there, but noob pilots?
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 28th 2011, 7:10 pm

I doubt it matters how much they insure it. They wouldn't do it anyways, even if it was free to insure it. Want to know why? Because they don't want to deal with it.
With a track comes crews. Maintenance, cleanup, setup, takedown. And there is no way they would lease it out if a company wanted to run it independently of them on the weekends.

Long story short, if you ever want to run a 1320 right outside billings, you better pray RMC doesn't buy it
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 28th 2011, 10:21 pm

Rocky wants it cause free general aviation is about to go away and they dont want to have to pay to use runways, control towers, radar, etc. Lets face it the drag strip is our generations oscars dreamland.
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I can't really see it being turned into a dedicated airstrip, anyway, cause it'd take an assload of work to remove all the existing structures. They might as well build a new airstrip in the middle of nowhere, especially since they could get land for a fraction of the price of the track.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 29th 2011, 6:00 pm

Yeah it seems like it would be cheaper to make an airstrip if that is all you needed. Land out there is dirt cheap.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 29th 2011, 10:16 pm

OK I've actually bid to out a small private airport .its alot more than u guys think. Rocky would love to get yds. Place ti store there own aircraft. Rent space to for other private planes. From a business standpoint it makes alotta sense.its already Bulit. Converting it is 20 percent of the bulid cost probably less.
Land costs. Construction materials. Labor.hiring a firm to general contract the project.permits.
There's so much to project of that size. Most of u have no idea.

We can only hope on Dec 8th a party other than rocky has the winning bid
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeNovember 29th 2011, 10:38 pm

^ Agree

+1 Fingers crossed here on 12/8.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 8th 2011, 12:18 pm

Well, is anyone gonna be there today to give us the news?

My plans are going to be ruined if the track isn't open next year. I was gonna use window marker and write "Eric Nichols is a hack!" on my back window next time out to the strip ! Very Happy

Pay that asshole back for fucking me over! affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 8th 2011, 3:36 pm

Auction ended at $310,000 I didn't know who the winning bidder was, but from what I heard on my way out the door it was positive and we should have an open track next year. Lets keep our fingers crossed. I hope thats the case and look forward to hearing more from someone in the know.

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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 8th 2011, 7:26 pm

^^

Good things!
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 8th 2011, 10:52 pm

Is it me or does that seem like a stupidly reasonable price??
What was she asking before!?
I feel like as a forum we could have come up with that.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 8th 2011, 11:13 pm

Cw Mcarthy and Brett McKinney are the new owners.

So happy they got the winning bid! Get everything ready cause we be racing!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 9th 2011, 12:56 am

Very Happy that is amazing
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 9th 2011, 10:06 am

For anyone who knows the knew owners... my two cents of advice.

embrace the young and the old. Keep the high dollar drag events going, but midnight drags for the younger crowd are awesome! Also, the parking lot is the best SCCA venue we have locally, embrace that and see how many events SCCA can get out there.

For the midnight drags.... make it fun. Have dj's come and setup in the parking lot. Have mini car shows. In Salt lake this is the best attended event on friday nights.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 9th 2011, 3:13 pm

Jake I would give Cw a few months to let things calm down. He is already being over whelmed with people.
You should get together with your scca buds and make out a plan to present to them.

I hope guys relize how lucky we are with who ended up with the track. Cw is a great guy. I dont know Brett but everyone says he a great buy to work with.

Like I said give them some time to get all organized. Hell he had the buy sell signed for 5 hours and everyone was calling texting already. Emptyed his voicemail twice at the bdrA meeting last nite
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 9th 2011, 4:50 pm

^ lol @ people mobbing him like that.

This is great news though and I'm very happy for everyone that was hoping for a good outcome here.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 14th 2011, 2:27 pm

Epic wootness. I wonder if they're gonna do anything with the dirt circuit track over there, too. Is that even part of the same property?
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 14th 2011, 7:25 pm

its a different property
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 18th 2011, 5:47 pm

How do we access it for dirt biking and quads Wink?
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeDecember 19th 2011, 12:08 am

The gate on the place is open, and the facility seems to be abandoned. Drove in there a few months ago, cruised around the track. There's a ton of standing water in the lower parts, so you can't go all the way around.
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PostSubject: Re: Yds is being auctioned   Yds is being auctioned Icon_minitimeJanuary 29th 2012, 5:15 pm

can't wait to be racing this year.
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