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PostSubject: G&J dyno   November 18th 2009, 4:29 pm

Anyone ever used the J&G diesel dyno? I know they have the software now for gasoline vehicles. I was curious as to what they thought of the dyno and how the results compare to Gary's dyno. Talking to a guy that is famous for tuning 240's he thinks either my dyno is low which many have said is true about Gary's dyno or that something is wrong. He's send me a tune to try out because he just made 601 hp with the same setup as my car. He however was on C16 and I will be on 100 so I don't plan on going that crazy. I am curious and may have to try out J&G sometime.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 18th 2009, 7:50 pm

i know that garys reads about 100hp low lol.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 18th 2009, 10:32 pm

Isn't it G&J? lol
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 19th 2009, 10:00 am

Yep it is G&J sorry long day yesterday. 100 hp seems like a lot. I was guessing somewhere around 20-30 hp. I know it really doesn't matter as its used for tuning. I have just been curious why my car always makes less power than everyone with the same setup. I'd love to hit up the dyno one time and see 500 hp out of my 2.0L.

I found a dyno for sale that is a bargain, too bad its 2wd or I'd pick it up and then we could have MAEC dyno days.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 19th 2009, 10:03 am

Pick it up anyways. I'd pay to use a 2wd Dyno. Very Happy And with this being a forum for all, I'm sure there will be large turnouts of hondas, mustangs, nissans, etc. I'd love to use a dyno to tune my 3g eclipse.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 19th 2009, 10:06 am

Its a deal its only $23,000 and its in Minnesota. They are changing to an AWD dyno.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 19th 2009, 11:58 am

RedMitsu wrote:
Pick it up anyways. I'd pay to use a 2wd Dyno. Very Happy And with this being a forum for all, I'm sure there will be large turnouts of hondas, mustangs, nissans, etc. I'd love to use a dyno to tune my 3g eclipse.
+1!! I'd love to get the Venge on a dyno soon after I get it all set up the way I want for a good tune! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 19th 2009, 1:17 pm

I can guarantee that if you bought that the response from just this forum alone would be overwhelming.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 19th 2009, 1:18 pm

We could have the first official MAEC horsepower days. (by the way, is it a pretty accurate horsepower reading if the AWD guys disconnect the driveshaft and rock it 2wd?)

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 19th 2009, 3:54 pm

i was being sarcastic, i know that it reads very low probly closer to 50 hp lower. my buddys 402 dynoed at 361 rwhp and his bone stock 346 was 323hpish on g&c s dyno. simple way to figure out hp is (i think i fore got the equasion) weight x (rate/234) ^3. found the equasion. preaty close i remeber running up stairs and doin this in physics http://www.ajdesigner.com/phphorsepower/horsepower_equation_trap_speed_method_horsepower.php i know that my buddys 402 has way more than 361 wrhp for the fact that his 3650lbs car ran a 11.8 in the 1/4 and his 323hp 346 ran a 13.3. ill have to search for the weight distance forula in my notebooks at home to figure it out alittle closer.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 19th 2009, 4:30 pm

so if my calculations are right he has 422 rwhp n/a and 556 with no2. 422-361 hp is a 61hp difference.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 19th 2009, 4:47 pm

Using my car as an example I think that may be a little high still because I was only running 18psi and most people make about 430-440 at that boost with the same setup. I think I will try G&J next year just to see what that looks like. Does anyone know if they have a MAP sensor for the dyno to monitor boost at G&J? I really want to focus more on a response tune this year. If it does read that high though I need to run it on a dyno that reads more accurate so I can join the 500hp club ha ha. Again not that the number really matters but it would be fun.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   November 22nd 2009, 6:52 pm

Buying that dyno would be a great idea. Really wish I had a 2wd car just for dyno reasons. I would have probably dynoed my car about 100 times by now.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 13th 2010, 9:21 pm

jason that d be sick if garys dyno read a little low haha. but hopefully ill get in g&j's soon so might be able to help you out then!

jason if you need race gas for your car give me shout since my dad deals vp. its a little more spendy than other brands but its worth it.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 13th 2010, 9:59 pm

i used g&j in 2005 in my nova and they told me my car made 591ftlbs of torque at 2200rpm.
motor only ran 14.70's inna 3500 lbs car... so i chalk it up to needing to be recalibrated.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 14th 2010, 10:19 am

Weird I have always gotten within about 10 ft/lbs of what I expected to on their dyno. I usually set it up to go the day after they have it calibrated. But then again all a dyno is is a number generator, the tuning aspect of it is really all that's important to me. Its nice to see the A/F ratio's plotted against a smooth flat Tq curve.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 14th 2010, 11:43 am

im thinking maybe a quick couple pulls on gary's rollers may be more realistic. allthough i have also heard that g&c's reads abit low
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 14th 2010, 12:39 pm


this shit is fuunnnyyyy!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 14th 2010, 10:46 pm

mustang dyno's read 8-10% lower than dynojet.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 14th 2010, 11:23 pm

id reall y like to dyno my car just to see what it doin on my 150 shot
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 15th 2010, 2:18 am

ghost wrote:
id reall y like to dyno my car just to see what it doin on my 150 shot

155 ? lol! sorry sam...couldnt resist
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 15th 2010, 4:43 pm

lmao . yeah there ya go lol!
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 15th 2010, 6:18 pm

give the little capri guy some credit... i say about 475 to the tires on the 150, just as l9ong as you dont sneak in a mc50 shot on us. King
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 15th 2010, 6:34 pm

so i guess if i did that id start at a 50 (200) and work my way up cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 15th 2010, 8:04 pm

thats right..... king
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 26th 2010, 7:34 pm

haha great movie josh haha
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 10:31 am

I have over 100+ pulls on Gary's dyno and it is very constant. His dyno does read about 50hp less than ones I have used in Indiana and Florida. And thats because no dyno is the same and I'm sure that the elevation has something to do with it. There is no formula correction factor! Whatever you make is what you make.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 10:39 am

That's how I feel Brett. Its not the numbers that really matter anyway, it just nice to get the tune right and adjust the power curve to fit with what your building the car for. When you getting back on the dyno? From what I've heard your new setup if going to be pretty sweet. I need to get back on after I make some cam degree changes.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 10:57 am

I was just on it on tuesday night! And you are very right it is a very good tuning tool.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 11:04 am

When do we get to see the curve and know the details of any new mods?

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 11:24 am

76mm turbo 16psi for now and 654rwhp and 732rwtq.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 12:06 pm

Mr. Brett Kolb..... I was wondering what you were doing with your Mustang. I haven't run into you lately to hear how things where going. I sold my Evo about a year ago and started building a junkyard race car for fun. It's come along way but it still needs a good amount of work, but for now it's fun learning and messing with it. Glad to see you joined the forum, and hopefully I will see you around.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 3:17 pm

Brett@K&KPerformance wrote:
76mm turbo 16psi for now and 654rwhp and 732rwtq.

That is pretty damn impressive. I would be stoked about that.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 3:40 pm

Thanks, I dont care about numbers though! I want the track times!
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 3:42 pm

Me too, maybe I should have let someone else drive my car ha ha.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 3:44 pm

I am sure the both of you will run fine numbers this year, me on the other hand, not so good.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 5:43 pm

looks like your gonna be in the tens there brett Wink
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 29th 2010, 9:18 pm

Lets hope so!
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 30th 2010, 4:29 pm

fingers crossed and hopin bud What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 30th 2010, 6:58 pm

Im going to guess 10s also. That much power I am guessing you would coast the last 16th mile.

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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 30th 2010, 9:42 pm

well, depending on alot of factors, including gears, converter, actuall working torque curve and the driver
it can go any of a great number of ways, i hope to see some 10.?'s outta bretts car, but you never know until it goes through the traps.. good luck though. king
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   April 30th 2010, 11:28 pm

I ran 11.20's last year @ 128.5 with 550rwhp and 550rwtq, with the same setup! The only thing thats changed is the turbo! Which is going to be a little different than running the blower i had last year. We will see, I could run slower than last year. Who knows!
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   May 1st 2010, 1:11 am

i have faith , lol u should be able to run into the tens , dont see why not witht those numbers , and your midrange torque is really gonna send u flyin . as ive seen with almost all turbo cars . if they can get outta the hole they seem to really post sum good numbers
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   May 1st 2010, 1:29 am

Im excited to see her run! Would love to see some mustang 10 second runs!
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   May 1st 2010, 9:07 am

My guess is in the 10s and a 135+ trap.
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   May 1st 2010, 12:28 pm

goddamn it brett, i cant wait to get next to you either or, i just gotta know, are you going for the crown? king
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   May 1st 2010, 3:55 pm

tell me where and when its goin down josh i wanna see this. race of the year?
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   May 1st 2010, 5:11 pm

Well Josh, I would love to line them up! I'm I going for a crown? Not really. I just want to run 10's, that was the goal for this car! But don't get me wrong I am very competitive and I hate to lose to anyone! So in short yes we are going to line them up but I don't need a crown!
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   May 1st 2010, 6:03 pm

the crown goes to the winner, but it has to be on the not track...KOTStreet, not KOTTrack
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PostSubject: Re: G&J dyno   May 1st 2010, 9:12 pm

im psyched out of my mind this is gonna be a sweet race if it goes down.
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