| When TUNING goes wrong... | |
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+11b1r - TS DJ Hobbles Riptide haproot turbotudor shawnss Dr.Auto BruisedTurd Foot_tit Novaflash2002 DoodieHead 15 posters |
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DoodieHead [GOD LIKE]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-20 Posts : 3074 Location : Shepherd, Montana
| Subject: When TUNING goes wrong... February 9th 2010, 9:03 pm | |
| I am not 100% sure it was the tune, but I have no other idea what it could have been. Being that the pistons are the weak point in the STI, I suppose that could have also been the problem. Enjoy this picture. | |
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Novaflash2002 [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 38 Join date : 2009-09-26 Posts : 823 Location : Great Falls, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 9th 2010, 9:08 pm | |
| holy fuck! that is bad, almost as bad as the rodney king beating | |
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Foot_tit [STUDENT]
Age : 37 Join date : 2009-10-04 Posts : 244 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 9th 2010, 9:27 pm | |
| thats not your car is it mike? | |
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BruisedTurd [STUDENT]
Age : 40 Join date : 2009-09-25 Posts : 217 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 9th 2010, 11:06 pm | |
| The Rod is a burrowing creature... If you look closely you can see each individual tooth mark from where he has gnawed at the walls of his surroundings to make his new dwelling... FECK! | |
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Dr.Auto [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 45 Join date : 2009-09-24 Posts : 977 Location : Lockwood, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 9th 2010, 11:09 pm | |
| you guys sure that some Motor Honey wouldn't fix that? | |
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shawnss [MASTER TECH]
Age : 39 Join date : 2009-09-23 Posts : 1571 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 9th 2010, 11:22 pm | |
| thats not how its supposed to look all 8 of mine look like that and i still drive it all the time. whos motor was that mikey? | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 10th 2010, 12:09 am | |
| that should hone out for at least 1 more pass huh? | |
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haproot [ENTHUSIAST]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-25 Posts : 463 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 10th 2010, 9:17 am | |
| - BruisedTurd wrote:
- The Rod is a burrowing creature... If you look closely you can see each individual tooth mark from where he has gnawed at the walls of his surroundings to make his new dwelling... FECK!
LOL^ Was that Paul's engine? Holy crap! | |
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Riptide [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 48 Join date : 2009-10-20 Posts : 734 Location : Billings
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 10th 2010, 9:19 am | |
| For the love of God. I hope that never happens to me. | |
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DoodieHead [GOD LIKE]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-20 Posts : 3074 Location : Shepherd, Montana
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 10th 2010, 1:51 pm | |
| I was out cruising around the other day and thought I lost a rod bearing. I guess it was a little more severe. | |
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haproot [ENTHUSIAST]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-25 Posts : 463 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 10th 2010, 3:15 pm | |
| - DoodieHead [ADMIN] wrote:
- I was out cruising around the other day and thought I lost a rod bearing. I guess it was a little more severe.
Don't believe.. | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 10th 2010, 5:56 pm | |
| he's just boo shittin ya, he hasn't driven his car in about, i don't know, too long. | |
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shawnss [MASTER TECH]
Age : 39 Join date : 2009-09-23 Posts : 1571 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 10th 2010, 8:15 pm | |
| - DoodieHead [ADMIN] wrote:
- I was out cruising around the other day and thought I lost a rod bearing. I guess it was a little more severe.
i call BS mikey. whos mess is that. | |
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Foot_tit [STUDENT]
Age : 37 Join date : 2009-10-04 Posts : 244 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 10th 2010, 9:38 pm | |
| im gonna guess that its pauls sti. i knew his car was out of service and heard mike was gonna be doing the rebuild. and i live right by paul and the sti isnt sitting at his house right now. just my guess! | |
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Dr.Auto [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 45 Join date : 2009-09-24 Posts : 977 Location : Lockwood, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 12:04 am | |
| Actually that is Mike's engine. He was getting spring fever so bad he couldn't even wait for spring to show up. So I was able to talk him into doing a winter rally-x with his car. He was doing really good but we didn't account for how much lower his car sits than all the other rally cars and it eventually scooped enough snow up it packed the radiator solid. Dumb thing overheated before mike knew it. He still came in third, but at the cost of another engine. It really was making just a little knocking noise it sure didn't sound that bad. Congrats out to Mike for third place though at his first winter rally-x. (sssshhhhhhh Mike. I'm ice fishing. looking for some bites ) | |
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DJ Hobbles [STUDENT]
Age : 39 Join date : 2009-09-28 Posts : 110 Location : Billings
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 12:31 am | |
| ^ too bad some fish know better | |
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haproot [ENTHUSIAST]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-25 Posts : 463 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 9:41 am | |
| I know it's Paul's as that was the engine he was working on all weekend. LOL. Mikes plates are expired and it's been sitting in storage. | |
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DoodieHead [GOD LIKE]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-20 Posts : 3074 Location : Shepherd, Montana
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 11:10 am | |
| Yeah, that is the #3 on Paul's car. | |
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Dr.Auto [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 45 Join date : 2009-09-24 Posts : 977 Location : Lockwood, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 3:06 pm | |
| Sorry, I got the story a little wrong. Mike was driving Paul's car at the rally-x and got third place in Paul's car but blew up the #3 cyl in it while racing because the radiator got packed with snow and over heated. Sorry about the confusion. | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 5:10 pm | |
| at any rate, blown up shit sucks. i have a whole pile of sweet high performance exploding parts | |
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Dr.Auto [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 45 Join date : 2009-09-24 Posts : 977 Location : Lockwood, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 6:25 pm | |
| yeah.....? well what makes this blown up part scenario so cool is it's like magic. Part vanished. You can't find it. Ta Da! lol I think I'm giving up ice fishing. No bites. Fish are too smart. Next they'll be accusing me of being a B.S. artist. | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 7:29 pm | |
| yeah it is kinda weird how you can pay out the nose for some pistons and rings, and one day there is a missing piston but the rings are still there? i don't get it. ive found pistons and shit in mufflers after bad explosions. | |
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Novaflash2002 [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 38 Join date : 2009-09-26 Posts : 823 Location : Great Falls, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 9:20 pm | |
| man this is about the time you would have wished that it had a pressed pin instead of a floating wrist pin. | |
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shawnss [MASTER TECH]
Age : 39 Join date : 2009-09-23 Posts : 1571 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 9:37 pm | |
| - Novaflash2002 wrote:
- man this is about the time you would have wished that it had a pressed pin instead of a floating wrist pin.
i dont really think it would have matter'd in that case. | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 11th 2010, 9:41 pm | |
| true, maybe one day parts companies will actually develope parts that are " bullet proof" | |
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Riptide [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 48 Join date : 2009-10-20 Posts : 734 Location : Billings
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 12:43 pm | |
| Yes but then all they would do is deflect bullets. | |
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b1r - TS [WEEKEND WARRIOR]
Age : 41 Join date : 2009-09-28 Posts : 625 Location : Billings
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 3:00 pm | |
| Mike, want to shed some light on what/who tuned the car? Was this something you guys had tweaked with or some 3rd party flash tune? | |
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haproot [ENTHUSIAST]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-25 Posts : 463 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 4:36 pm | |
| I think he had it tuned by someone down in Denver.. It had a big turbo, and stock internals. That's the extent of what I know. | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 6:42 pm | |
| well he was probably just a hair lean then concidering elevation change and all the incedentals , that sucks either way. hope he gets it back together | |
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DoodieHead [GOD LIKE]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-20 Posts : 3074 Location : Shepherd, Montana
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 7:28 pm | |
| Paul had his car tuned by a guy named Harvey down in Denver. That is really all I know about the situation. It really does not suprise me that the engine failed as it is all stock internals and running 25psi. There was only 1300 miles on the turbo conversion before the explosion.
I guess the moral of the story is if you are going to be pushing crazy amount of CFM + BOOST the internals are in need of an upgrade. Stock internals on an STI are not forged and will not hold up forever.
I was talking with Paul today and it looks like he is getting things rounded up and we might have a build on our hands here in the next month or so. | |
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Novaflash2002 [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 38 Join date : 2009-09-26 Posts : 823 Location : Great Falls, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 7:34 pm | |
| call me up, i get the hook ups on machine work. Helps being good friends with one and having a dad as one lol. | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 7:39 pm | |
| [quote="Novaflash2002"]call me up, i get the hook ups on machine work. Helps being good friends with one and having a dad as one lol.[/quote whats your oldmans name? my dad was a performance machinist for 45 years here in town. just curious. ya know since W.E.B. went outta business, and my paa is retired from the shop, i might need one after a couple 20 psi passes... | |
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Novaflash2002 [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 38 Join date : 2009-09-26 Posts : 823 Location : Great Falls, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 7:41 pm | |
| Preston Mitchell im origanlay from Sundance Wyo, he worked for Hary Garman for years (your dad will more than likely know that name) Ivan Polisky for years and than by himself. | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 7:52 pm | |
| cool, didn't know you were in the know, ya know. | |
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Novaflash2002 [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 38 Join date : 2009-09-26 Posts : 823 Location : Great Falls, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 7:57 pm | |
| lot of people dont. i was offerd r&l machine at age 21, but like an idiot i tuned down a deal at $200,000 for everything because i never thought about moving the equiptment to billings = ( (man i swear my mom dropped me on my head) | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 8:01 pm | |
| it's okay, i was wanting to get into machine work, but my old man said "no, you go to school and do something you will love, and be able to do for the rest of your life." | |
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Novaflash2002 [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 38 Join date : 2009-09-26 Posts : 823 Location : Great Falls, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 8:27 pm | |
| man i have heard the same thing too. "if you do it all the time you wont love it any more" | |
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DoodieHead [GOD LIKE]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-20 Posts : 3074 Location : Shepherd, Montana
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 9:18 pm | |
| - Novaflash2002 wrote:
- man i have heard the same thing too. "if you do it all the time you wont love it any more"
Amen! | |
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 12th 2010, 9:19 pm | |
| so me being the hard head that i am, i became a mechanic for a living, now i'm hurt and i cant do that anymore so ima go to school on worker's comp money to be a industrial design or engineer or something. designing shit for other people to work on. | |
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DoodieHead [GOD LIKE]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-20 Posts : 3074 Location : Shepherd, Montana
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 23rd 2010, 7:58 pm | |
| Paul is really getting things figured out. He has a bare block, all gaskets, and built heads. He is in the process of getting the pistons/rods here in the next couple days. Might be getting her back together more sooner than later. | |
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Dr.Auto [GARAGE NUT]
Age : 45 Join date : 2009-09-24 Posts : 977 Location : Lockwood, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 23rd 2010, 11:30 pm | |
| well just remember Mike... not too heavy on the silicone. lol wow... the good old days..... how long ago was that? seven years now? | |
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DoodieHead [GOD LIKE]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-20 Posts : 3074 Location : Shepherd, Montana
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... February 25th 2010, 2:05 pm | |
| Yeah, that was some time ago out at Dennis's Shop. I really find it funny how much I didnt know about Subarus back then. | |
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subysportsti [TRAINEE]
Age : 36 Join date : 2010-03-11 Posts : 78 Location : Miles City
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... March 15th 2010, 1:01 pm | |
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ZipDriveX [MASTER TECH]
Age : 37 Join date : 2009-09-24 Posts : 1996 Location : Billings, MT
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... March 15th 2010, 1:29 pm | |
| About damn time Paul! | |
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haproot [ENTHUSIAST]
Age : 43 Join date : 2009-09-25 Posts : 463 Location : Billings, MT
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turbotudor [GEAR HEAD]
Age : 48 Join date : 2010-02-07 Posts : 1103 Location : 2 cars ahead and pullin bus lengths
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... March 16th 2010, 2:45 pm | |
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fastback959 [ENTHUSIAST]
Age : 39 Join date : 2010-01-17 Posts : 460 Location : Billings
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... March 19th 2010, 8:25 pm | |
| - turbotudor wrote:
- yeah it is kinda weird how you can pay out the nose for some pistons and rings, and one day there is a missing piston but the rings are still there? i don't get it. ive found pistons and shit in mufflers after bad explosions.
how do you think that turbo liked that? that engine was bad! it had piston fragments on the other head ... | |
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quadracer [TRAINEE]
Age : 31 Join date : 2010-09-16 Posts : 80 Location : Billings
| Subject: Re: When TUNING goes wrong... September 18th 2010, 6:24 pm | |
| was it tuning or timing..... haha that looks terrible!! | |
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